Can people please realize that AVID is still a hardware company even though they have released PT9. Efforts to circumvent AVID's policies are probably more trouble than it's worth. a) If you legitimately own AVID hardware, there is a crossgrade available for you, at a discount. b) If you want to use PT9 with someone else's hardware, or no hardware, you don't qualify for the upgrade. Pony up for the full version. c) Buying used equipment has it's own set of issues, and you'll want to perform a proper transfer of ownership- you don't want to buy some used MBox and find out someone already used that serial number to score a copy of PT9 at the upgrade price. Word to the wise...